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Modern art.

"during around the renaissance period, Each artist sought the highest quality attainable and they improved on the previous generation of masters. Nowadays art seems to be only about making a statement, Which in tern leads to bad art. Art standards are not objective. " Okay, So I don't want to be obtuse and act like I don't understand your point. I'm a musician, So I too have snobbishly rejected music that was overly simplistic or what you would call "trashy" The thing about art is it's not just one thing. So I would say that while it's okay to have a standard, Which judgements made of this standard COULD be objective even if the standard itself is subjective, We should also acknowledge that sending a message is okay too. It really depends on the message. I would say that if the art made is coherent and not just random lines, Then it should be respected. That is the bare standard that i could accept. "The golden ratio is a great example of transcendant beauty. I don't know a single person who does not find flowers beautiful. " This is the argument from ignorance fallacy, AKA the pesonal incredulity fallacy. You're basically saying that you can't imagine how somebody can't find the golden ratio beautiful, But it's stilll subjective. Plus everyone likes it for a different reason if they like it at all. I don't find flowers partiularly beautiful (Yeah, I know, I'm a monster) but I find the ratio itself beautiful becase I love math. Also, Doesn't the golden ratio have a more popular name? Just a side note. I had a friend into metaphysics who use to talk about it all the time and how it shows up everywhere. Nature is fun. I want to adress the comment you made about the David being a really expensive hunk of stone. You say beauty is transcendant, But millions of people have found beauty in the david and you haven't. Doesn't that hurt your case? If beauty is transcendant, Then it should be universally agreed upon, But nobody can agree with anything, Hence why this website exist. Lol. I'm sure you're famiar with warhal's campbell soup painting. I found it to be stupid, But peole liked it. It's all subjective and we should respect people's opinions instead of saying they're being "trashy" or not artistic. Your floor :)