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    If you had a problem with the definitions I provided you...

    art is technically useful

    "We are talking about the typical form of arts, which is painting or sculpturing." If you had a problem with the definitions I provided you should have said so in the second round of the debate, before I provided my argument. "Yes but geometry, symmetry, construction etc are now studied in Math. Would they qualify as If you had a problem with the definitions I provided you should have said so in the second round of the debate, before I provided my argument. "Yes but geometry, symmetry, construction etc are now studied in Math. Would they qualify as art. Also building a house would require usage of all 3 skills as well." Of course they are studied in math NOW, but art is the base of them. Just because it is studied in math, does not mean it is an art. "Art doesn't have a practical use, it just beautifies things." The definition of useful states - able to be used for a practical purpose or in several ways. This means that it does not HAVE to have a practical use, it can also just be used in multiple ways. We are not arguing if art is practical, only if it is useful. One such use is beautifying things, another could possibly be to bring out positive emotion in the viewer. Therefore, art is technically useful. The link talks about philosophies, but they can be expressed through writings. But what can be expressed through writings? If you're talking about philosophies than it's entirely irrelevant, the same if you are talking about emotion. "Emotion practically doesn't have a use unless its good" Once again, the definition of useful does not state that it has to be practical, it can also be used in many different ways. "and even then emotions expressed through art won't impact the watcher." Untrue, many people are affected emotionally by art, whether it be paintings, music, sculptures, etc. Just because you personally aren't affected, doesn't mean others are. Yet I don't see why paintings are still sold at ridiculous prices. They obviously see a use in them, whether it be to make a room look more pleasing, brings out a positive emotion in them, or even just to show off their wealth. These are all uses of a painting, while they may be petty to you, they are still uses, therefore art can be useful.