• CON

    Since my opponent didn't define any words I would like to...

    Graffiti can be art.

    I accept this debate. However, I am narrowing the debate topic to "whether Graffiti is art" because "can be" is too opinionated and leaning too much in favor of my opponent's side. Since my opponent didn't define any words I would like to take the time now to define the words used in this discussion. graffiti is defined as "unauthorized writing or drawing on a public surface"(1) art is defined as "the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance."(2) My Opening Statement: By definition, graffiti is unauthorized and therefore is a crime. If the drawing is authorized then it is called a mural, which is defined as "a large picture painted or affixed directly on a wall or ceiling."(3) To clarify my statement, I am saying that graffiti is by definition a crime. If the drawing is authorized it is classified as a mural, otherwise it is defacing someone else's property and cannot be considered Since my opponent didn't define any words I would like to take the time now to define the words used in this discussion. graffiti is defined as "unauthorized writing or drawing on a public surface"(1) art is defined as "the quality, production, expression, or realm, according to aesthetic principles, of what is beautiful, appealing, or of more than ordinary significance."(2) My Opening Statement: By definition, graffiti is unauthorized and therefore is a crime. If the drawing is authorized then it is called a mural, which is defined as "a large picture painted or affixed directly on a wall or ceiling."(3) To clarify my statement, I am saying that graffiti is by definition a crime. If the drawing is authorized it is classified as a mural, otherwise it is defacing someone else's property and cannot be considered art. (1) http://www.merriam-webster.com... (2) http://dictionary.reference.com... (3) http://dictionary.reference.com...

  • PRO

    Bioshock is a survival horror first-person shooter video...

    Bioshock is a work of art

    Bioshock is a survival horror first-person shooter video game designed by Ken Levine and developed by 2k Boston. The game plays off of Ayn Rand's novel Atlas Shrugged: led by Andrew Ryan, industrialists, artists, and scientists have retreated from the world and built Rapture, a dystopian city at the bottom of the Atlantic. When the game begins, however, the city and its citizens have been corrupted by their own arrogance, as genetically manipulated splicers creep through the corridors and hallways of Rapture. It seems like all humanity has been lost, and it is the player's objective to kill Andrew Ryan and escape Rapture. In a previous debate with USM, I argued that video games were not actually works of art. But after playing through and considering the aesthetic and philosophical depth of Bioshock, I feel compelled to recant my position. Bioshock is a work of art. It is a monumental human achievement, the magnum opus of gaming, and I would like to take this opportunity to defend it till my dying breath. I welcome anyone to take this debate, but I ask that challengers take it seriously and not attempt to derail it with semantics or other forms of silliness. I accept the full responsibility and burden of proving Bioshock is a work of art.

  • PRO

    These are some more expensive pictures, but as you can...

    Modern Art

    http://fineartamerica.com... Not all abstract art is expensive. The price now remains on the quality of the picture. http://www.ugallery.com... These are some more expensive pictures, but as you can see, the quality is much better. Now normal "kids" wouldn't be able to draw these things. Also the price doesn't just increase because of the artist, it depends on the quality of teh painting. Humans are very good at deceiving themselves, but some drawings from kids are really good, and some drawing for professionals aren't that good either.

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Modern-Art/1/
  • CON

    Firstly, let me just say wow. ... I had something...

    Art Challenge

    Firstly, let me just say wow. That is gorgeous, NiamC! You should definitely pursue a career correlated with art! I had something planned out before but I scrapped it and went with this instead: This is a drawing/painting of a purse, that for some reason refuses to be pasted here. The purse is on a cloth, which has shadows on it. http://www.debate.org... Media used: paint, pencils, watercolour pencils, charcoal pencils, charcoal, watercolour pages, paintbrushes and water. === Don't count me out yet! I am sure I will woo you with out last round!

    • https://www.debate.org/debates/Art-Challenge/1/
  • CON

    Most forms of art (as a general term) can be used should...

    Should art be taught more seriously

    I believe here I will break the mood when I ask what art(s) you may be referring to. Most forms of art (as a general term) can be used should you be the right person. Multiculturalism and delving into the formalities and typologies of art (as a general term) is canon in most US-based education.

  • CON

    To summarize, Pro hasn't provide a strong rebuttal point,...

    art is useful outside career field

    To summarize, Pro hasn't provide a strong rebuttal point, and has failed to give a reason as to art's usefulness outside a career field. As for a hobby, a hobby isn't very useful or practical, and art is just a waste of time. Art doesn't relieve stress either, it requires more concentration to do art properly and can be tiresome. Please vote for me.

  • PRO

    I do not agree, art was not practised by earlier...

    art is useful outside career field

    I do not agree, art was not practised by earlier generations of humans as a "career", it was practised to express feelings and opinions as well as represent and write history. Fro 18-20 century art and music was very popular, some artists mastered art so well visitors would cry because it was vivid or expressed feelings of sadness or betrayal.

  • CON

    Further to this, it is necessary to ban some art due to...

    Illegal art should be made accesible

    The argument surrounding paedophilia relates to the fact that uncensored online material allows the option for paedophiles to view material containing children. I did not state or imply that looking at this material online makes someone a paedophile. I merely made the point that making illegal art accessible to all people means exactly that. All people can view it, even those with less than desirable intentions. "To ban anything in art can be both politically and socially dangerous." The issue with a statement such as this, as previously discussed in this debate, is that the internet has broadened what is considered ‘art' to such an extent that it is difficult to distinguish between what is genuine art, and what is just offensive material labelled ‘art' to avoid censorship. Without any system allowing a filtering of offensive material, much of the ‘art' on the internet will contain images and themes that are both offensive and disturbing to people who view them. Further to this, it is necessary to ban some art due to copyright laws, and this law shouldn't be overlooked just because the material is online. In reference to the example you gave of Bill Henson using naked teenagers fifteen years ago without any fanfare, as opposed to the hype surrounding his recent ones, this shows the power of new technology. Many people were exposed to the photographs as a result of the hype around them and their frequency online. The controversy is an example of the power of new technologies in circulating material such as this, allowing more people to be exposed to it and therefore more opinions surface. The material of Hensons photographs is sensitive, and I would argue that they should be censored online and people who just want to view them for their artistic merit should physically view them in a museum. Censorship is an issue that has always been regarded with some disdain by people,especially in a democratic nation but the progress of the new technology of the internet in superceding any offline limitations and regulations in place to protect original work and children, makes some sort of censorship the only option in bringing back some sort of regulation on the flow of information to the world. It is all well and good to say that people want to have the right to view this art but what about those who don't want to view it, what about those children who are too young to be able to understand the decision and stumble across photos of "art" of an obscene nature after typing in some semi-related words into a search engine, images like this are hard to be unseen, and promoting this exhibition on the internet reduces people's choice to see this kind of potentially offensive material. In the youtube video, "BCM301 Class discussion", this is a point made, by exhibiting on the internet, with the knowledge that everyone, all ages, political and religious beliefs varying, can use the technology, you greatly increase the chance of forcing this material down the throat of someone who may not wish to see it through the myriad of pop up images and links that appear on unrelated websites and the innaccuracy of some search engine responses. So is this fair? It is all well and good to say people should be able to view this material to appreciate it as "art", or whatever you define as art this week, but let these people seek it out in a physical art gallery, where limitations of access for those who are too young or choose not to see these images are as simple as shutting a door or asking for an ID card. Some images are hard to forget, in the offline world there is a whole, tiered and strict system for making sure certain images don't affect the wrong people with their lasting impressions without the express permission of said people. Just because the internet makes it possible to shove things down people's throats, it does not mean we have to do it, perhaps if we tried self regulating ourselves more often, extreme measures such as the censorship filter on the internet would not be necessary. I would also like to thank my opponent for their participation and insight into this topic.