• PRO

    My opponents main arguements for children having a right...

    Martial art instructors should not teach children a martial art

    My opponents main arguements for children having a right to learning martial arts for self defence are: 1. teaching kids martial arts helps reduce crime 2. teaching kids martial arts helps reduce bullying A criminal with (or without) a gun won't worry whether a kid knows karate. But this kid might die trying to be a hero. We will always hear stories about kids preventing murders using martial arts but not the ones who died because they did. There are a lot of children who do martial arts and a lot of children being bullied. Teaching kids a martial art just makes bullying worse, children are prevented from knowing when someone is abused, and will be less likely to call for help (either by screaming, or asking). Anyone can be a bully, the fact instructors can be abusive shows this is true. Children under 18 are suffering more pain than they would if martial arts were not taught at that age. It is irresponsible to expect children to not misuse these fighting techniques. If children were encouraged to do other things they would be friendlier to each other instead of experimenting moves on others and similar things. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There are too many martial arts to talk about individually, but they are all similar in what they claim to teach. I do not need to establish that all instructors are bullies because whether it should be banned for children or not is not just a question of how many children are abused by their instructor. There are many children who go through life without being able to recognise when someone is abusing them or when someone else is being abused right in front of them because they took up a martial art and had their mind conditioned to accept such things. Bowing, doing what you are told is not respect. People need to wake up! Worryingly my opponent (who is learning a martial art) and others like him do not think the videos I have shown are legit including the graphic video showing a martial art instructor stamp on a mentally ill mans head, knocking his head against a metal post despite hearing him hit it, and being able to see his blood! These videos should be taken seriously because people are being abused. What can someone learn from being knocked out? Obviously there will be much more of this happening than we can see because I doubt many dojos allow cameras or phones whilst training, and much is unreported, or not uploaded on the particular site I've looked at. Hopefully I have summed everything up, I apologise if I have miss some points out. Finally I'd like to leave you with a question: Can someone be abused if they are paying for something? Feel they are learning something? And enjoying it regularly? My answer of course is yes. Many thanks for having this debate. Please leave your comments and don't forget to vote!

  • CON

    But the arts have somehow infested the hallways and taken...

    schools shouldn't cut art from the budget

    I would like to thank Cf9498 for presenting his arguments. I. Art Isn't Important "School is supposed to be an academic environment. But the arts have somehow infested the hallways and taken thousands of students hostage with pretty colors and soothing sounds. Students go to school to learn the derivative of 48 x 2 and the Kreb's Cycle, not to paint abstract nothingness or to sing bad choral music."[1] II. Art Can Distract Students "The arts, which are a required credit in many schools, distract students and create wannabe starving artists, who skip class because they don't want to put their precious guitar away, or who never leave the art room because they have to finish their masterpiece painting of a soda can."[1] III. They Would Have to Cut more Important Subjects if Art was Kept "The survey, by the Center on Education Policy, found that since the passage of the federal law, 71 percent of the nation's 15,000 school districts had reduced the hours of instructional time spent on history, music and other subjects to open up more time for reading and math." Cutting But the arts have somehow infested the hallways and taken thousands of students hostage with pretty colors and soothing sounds. Students go to school to learn the derivative of 48 x 2 and the Kreb's Cycle, not to paint abstract nothingness or to sing bad choral music."[1] II. Art Can Distract Students "The arts, which are a required credit in many schools, distract students and create wannabe starving artists, who skip class because they don't want to put their precious guitar away, or who never leave the art room because they have to finish their masterpiece painting of a soda can."[1] III. They Would Have to Cut more Important Subjects if Art was Kept "The survey, by the Center on Education Policy, found that since the passage of the federal law, 71 percent of the nation's 15,000 school districts had reduced the hours of instructional time spent on history, music and other subjects to open up more time for reading and math." Cutting art means more important subjects. IV. Artists, phooey! Artists make little money, waste college funds, feed off the government, raise the debt, paint horrible pictures (today), are "artsy", are weird, eat their paintings when they are hungry, and so forth. Why should we promote them? V. My Opponent's Argument My opponent said, "it encourages children to go to school every day." I hated art. I got a C in it the last time I took it. If I had to take Art again, I would be MORE inclined to skip school. And so would a lot of other kids. Thank you. Sources: [1]: http://articles.sun-sentinel.com... [2]: http://www.nytimes.com...

  • PRO

    It will enable increased cultural interaction over...

    Illegal art should be made accesible

    Illegal art must be made accessible to those who whish to view it. It will enable increased cultural interaction over issues. Deliberation is paramount.

  • CON

    Arts classes cannot be cut in favor of “core classes”,...

    Resolved: Budget Cuts to Art classes are justified

    I thank my opponent for posting his opening argument and hope that his time is not so scarce due to dire circumstances. However, I need to remind my opponent that this is not an open-format debate. Round 2 was to be used for opening arguments only, rebuttals were reserved for round 3, since now my opponent has one additional round of rebuttals over me. In all fairness, he should only post original arguments in the next round to make up for this. I also need to point out that quotations need to be marked as such. Reading this round was really taxing, due to the sudden transitions from my own text to his ideas. To make this easier on the reader, I will summarize these ideas by my opponent: a) budget cuts are unfortunate, and my opponent feels he does not need to justify them as a whole b) budget cuts to art classes, however, are claimed to be justified c) art classes suffer budget cuts in order to preserve the budget of “core classes” d) art classes enhance English, writing and math, so if we cut the budgets of the latter, art classes serve less purpose e) art related jobs are quite low-paying, while math and science jobs are among the highest paying f) art education can be taken outside of the classroom, so schools do not have to fund it Point a) is Con attempting to oversimplify the debate. He doesn’t question any of my definitions, only how broadly this debate applies them. However, this is false. If budget cuts are never justified, then budget cuts to art classes are also never justified. As shown in the previous round, since the art classes budget is a subset of the education budgets, it cannot gain justification out of the blue. Thus, as he has failed to respond to my arguments showing that budget cuts are never justified, extend those points. They’re enough to win me this debate. If all these budget cuts are admittedly unjustified, as Con has so far conceded, then so are the art classes budget cuts, negating b). My opponent does not build up an argument to prove that art classes budget cuts are “justified”, only that they are LESS UNJUSTIFIED than cuts to other budgets. It is of no consequence for this debate which budget cut is more or less unjustified. The burden of proof is on my opponent to show that the quality of “justification” is attached to the arts classes budget cuts. Point c) relies on my source, but as I stated in my previous round, this is a rumor, an uncorroborated suspicion [11]. There is no official reason given for the actual budget cuts to art classes anywhere. My opponent builds his claim on suspicion as if it were fact. And in fact, my opponent’s statement makes no sense at all. Arts classes cannot be cut in favor of “core classes”, since the arts themselves “are also defined in federal legislation as a core academic subject”. [9] How could it be reasoned to cut one core subject in favor of other core subjects? Unreasonable decisions, however, are unjustified by definition. [1] Not all budget cuts will result from weighing the importance of one subject against another. Sometimes schools might lose funding as a result of shifting money into other government programs. As none of those shifts in funding can be justified, as they’re essentially mortgaging the future of our children and nation, the resulting loss of funds from arts programs is even more unjust. Point d) accordingly rests on a false dichotomy. My opponent claims that either the art classes or one of the other core subjects has to be cut in budget, and calls the art classes cuts “fair” in some contrived way. That’s just plain wrong. If we do not arbitrarily (=unjustified, see above) cut the education budgets at all - after all, they are “unfortunate” according to my opponent - then NEITHER of the core subjects - be it English, math OR art - will serve less purpose. There are countless other ways to deal with the budget deficits apart from the arbitrary, unjust Sequester. For instance, it’s not as if ALL budgets were evenly cut. Interestingly, the NASA budget has been raised substantially, specifically “a $549 million increase to NASA above the President's request.” [13] The federal education funding, however, has been cut by $133 million [14], which means that increasing the NASA budget by a respectable $416 million ABOVE the budget the President asked for in the first place would have left enough money to keep education funding at its original level. Surely, this arbitrary raise of one budget above the request while cutting other budgets must be considered unjustified. Giving some people money they didn’t even ask for while denying necessary help to others, who also did an excellent job, cannot be fair. It is thus clearly NOT the art classes’ fault that the budgets of other core classes are in danger. Punishing art-loving students and putting their teachers out of a job is not a justifiable answer to this blatant misallocation of funds. I don’t even understand what point e) is trying to express. That we should abandon all careers that do not pay properly? That we should all - according to his list - strive to be “Oral and maxillofacial surgeons” [15]? And let our economy go to ruins for lack of nurses, aviation inspectors, power plant operators and postsecondary teachers, who all earn even LESS than a poet? [16] If we cut poetry, then we would by the wage argument have to cut 90% of all careers. This is beyond reason. Art classes - this much my opponent concedes - make students better in language and science skills, thus producing BETTER scientists and doctors. By cutting art classes, we decrease the quality of our best-paid specialists. This can only mean that from this point onward, they’d have to be considered overpaid, because less qualified people do not deserve higher wages! If anything, the lower income in art careers shows that in the US, artists are not properly qualified, so they have little chance of increasing their wages. We would by that very same argument have to increase our efforts to keep US artists competitive on the international market. The US media market is the largest in the world [17] in spending and revenue. The US can only benefit from keeping the resources to dominate that market and not give it into foreign hands by outsourcing. Point f) can be extended to any subject on any school level, and as such is non-unique. There’s no reason art is fundamentally easier to learn than math or English. Ultimately, any education can be acquired outside of school. Unless my opponent would like to build an argument for how all public schools should be replaced by a choice between homeschooling or no schooling, this argument should be disregarded. Basically, my opponent’s naive outlook on this complex topic misses the entire point. We should be mainly concerned with the impact of art classes on the international competitiveness of US schools, and as such analyze the tactics of the top performing countries. Finland has the highest international ranking in school performance.[18] Children here do not have to take standardized tests, but are exposed to art classes as early as first grade. In combination with the studies cited last round, this clearly indicates that the long-term effects of brain stimulation through art has far more positive effects than the United States’ fixation on standardized testing in the other core subjects. [13] http://www.planetary.org... [14] http://www.washingtonpost.com... [15] http://www.bls.gov... [16] http://www.myplan.com... [17] http://www.statista.com... [18] http://www.smithsonianmag.com...

  • CON

    Thank you Pro Pro didn't say who the BOP was on, I will...

    Martial art instructors should not teach children a martial art

    Thank you Pro Pro didn't say who the BOP was on, I will assume it is on him, because he is trying to prove martial art instructors shouldn't teach kids. Pro's first argument consists of assumptions. He must prove that literally 100% of Martial Art instructors are deceptive bullies. I can simply say my martial Art teacher wasn't a deceptive bully, therefore Pro's 1st argument is refuted. I'll start with why Martial Arts is a good thing Self Defense Everybody has the right to self defense. Why should kids be excluded? With Martial arts, kids can defend themselves if somebody tries to mess with them. The best part, is that it is very unlikely a kid will inflict mortal wounds on their attacker, this way the kid has time to escape, and law enforcement can deal with the issue. This is different from a case dealing with a gun. Most often than not, if a kid shot their attacker, he likely would have sustained major wounds. Also, that depends on how responsible the kid is. A kid can shoot himself to death, he can't really beat himself up. Self Defense taught by martial arts is a viable and effective way in reducing crime. Some attacker isn't the only case. It is also very useful in school, where bullies lurk around. Detterence Theory The fact that children could defend themselves from threats brings in another point. It creates a psychological detterence factor. ccording to sources provided by Isaac Ehrlich, currently a University of Buffalo Distinguished Professor of Economics, he figured that according to the deterrence theory, criminals are no different from law-abiding people. Criminals "rationally maximize their own self-interest subject to constraints that they face in the marketplace and elsewhere.(1) In other words, if criminals know children could resist and defend themselves, they are less likely to even attack them in the first place. This is all I will present this round. My opponent has said R3 can be used for arguments, so you will see some extra arguments given. 1: Isaac Ehrlich, "The Deterrent Effect of Capital Punishment: A Question of Life and Death," American Economic Review, Vol. 65, No. 3 (1975), pp. 397-417, and Isaac Ehrlich, "Capital Punishment and Deterrence: Some Further Thoughts and Additional Evidence," Journal of Political Economy, Vol. 85 (August, 1977), pp.

  • PRO

    First round is acceptance only. ... Con must argue that...

    Brevity Debate: Art is essential to society.

    You have 500 characters per round to make your case. First round is acceptance only. Con must argue that First round is acceptance only. Con must argue that Con must argue that art is not essential to society.

  • CON

    But these advertisement are beautiful in some way......

    Art is more sophisticated than that.

    But these advertisement are beautiful in some way... beautiful to some people at least. No not everyone finds every piece of art beautiful, but someone does. Lets look at a few examples: War Propaganda Posters from WWII: A Swastika would look very beautiful and appealing to Hitler and lead Nazis because it means so much more to them, but America would see it as ugly. Beauty to some, ugly to others. Cigarette Ad: Beautiful to addicts, ugly to opposers Now lets switch the scene and looks at music. Hardcore heavy death metal is beautiful to some, while country is to others. Theres no right and wrong in the aspects of beauty, but the end result it a type of beauty to someone

  • PRO

    I'm sure Con had perfectly good reasons on why she...

    Sword Art Online is a Good show

    Well that's disappointing. I'm sure Con had perfectly good reasons on why she forfeited so I ask voters to disregard it if they would. This is also is a biased topic but oh well. Overall I'm sure Con had perfectly good reasons on why she forfeited so I ask voters to disregard it if they would. This is also is a biased topic but oh well. Overall art and animations. The overall art and animations of SAO were decent. I have seen better work and have done better work myself but it wasn't too bad. Music The music was very fitting to the moments in the story. An example of this is in SAO II, Asuna, Kirito, and Yui decide to buy the house that they lived in during SAO. The song playing during that scene wen't perfect with the mood. I can't think of anything else. So here you go.

  • CON

    My position as Con, assumes that I am to negate an...

    Aikido is not an effective martial art

    Pro has not composed his argument in round 1, and has forfeited round 2. The burden of proof is on Pro, since I cannot negate his resolution, "Aikido is not an effective martial art," without him presenting any argument for this claim. My position as Con, assumes that I am to negate an affirmation of the resolution, not affirm the opposite of a stated resolution. Pro also needs to define "effective," which could be construed many possible ways. Our argument must suffice in the closing round.