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  • PRO

    But mean what you say and say what you mean if of course...

    A conclusion to the art of communication

    So you have gone against at the start and now you come to a compromise with "How does Pro view the concepts of Individual ability, individual choice and individual freedom of expression?" Do I have to repeat myself does Polly want a cracker or does Polly need a cracker? Yes, crackers salted or unsalted? I say to you this; Are these monotone abuses aware or unaware of this subconsciously or not? I believe that rationalise reasoning within the cognitive mindset determines one's own conclusion within one's own personal concept of your ability to comprehend. So is this individual as to be as sheep and is freedom to be ignorant because of arrogance with monotone apathetic trends that fails one's self to be a well-balanced individual that uses the skill of articulation instead of hiding behind a big front of noise or the jargonised great wall of text that only another apathetic monotone scientist would or could understand. It's just like the lack of expression of ones and zeros that logic not rational reasoning. So you say TYPE Take Your Pick Everyone. But mean what you say and say what you mean if of course you can or are able to or even capital to begin with? as long as it comes from the heart. But sometimes we need to be cruel to be kind and don't forget the golden rule. So in short monotone abuses mindset can't comprehend as well as an articulate mindset. Because of apathy being there own disposition. To put up with a little noise is easier than to not. as it will soon become the whole lot of noise.

  • PRO

    So if wisdom is to have the ability to have a structured...

    A conclusion to the art of communication

    To clarify monotone abuse. Now, this is not to be tone deaf as many are. This is to fall behind an apathetic tone in one's voice. I have even heard David Attenborough doing this when he speaks within scientific intricate jargon. So if wisdom is to have the ability to have a structured conversation with the village idiot and accepting that tomorrow it's my turn to be the village idiot. Explaining complexities in the simplest manner is just like nuts and bolts. The hardest part is knowing how to put it all back together. What would you say to that? If you read or even listen to audio books how well can you read a none or fictional storybook for your own children as to make it as genuinely real as possible? As to in capture there minds within the actual moment of the adventure. This ability is just like an artist within a picture or a musician's to harmonise. Just as our own language is if broken down is explanatory as an example assume, to assume makes an a#s (of) u (and) me. Sometimes I believe that the structural evolution of language was created as to harmonise and many people as the likes of scientists are missing or abuse its true nature and hide behind monotones. But a salesman does the opposite and utilise within a harmonic natural speech pattern as to make the sale. To much honey in my tummy makes me feel funny. Would you trust a salesman selling snake oil that speaks with a forked tongue? For this is what I see within many scientists as the limb that they choose to go out upon weakens and almost at a breaking point change there own tune in their voice pattern and a tone that wasn't there now is. As to blow smoke up one a#s. I also believe that to be apathetic is also within this same spectrum within one's own individual cognitive drives mindset and I fell that this is the cause and effect of why many scientists chose to lean towards atheism. As I hear it in there own descriptive failures within the harmonics of expression. As to Emphasize. Emphasis. Empathy within expression. is it deliberate or unintentional or as to be unaware of one's own self as the well-balanced individual would be aware of this. Is something just missing or not; passion, frustration and anger. Where is apathetic? Hiding behind the anger and frustration for passion within expression, falls away real fast doesn't it?

  • PRO

    Referees and linesmen are human and therefore cannot be...

    Football is an art not a science.

    Football - the beautiful game - has a natural ebb and flow, the speed and end to end nature of the game should be interrupted as little as possible. Do we want to stop the game for every debatable decision. Was it a handball, did the defender play the ball or take out the man, which way should the throw in be awarded, should it be a corner or a goal kick, was the forward marginally offside or not etc... Where would it end? Referees and linesmen are human and therefore cannot be perfect but if there is consent that we accept their decisions, right or wrong then we can preserve the essence of the game. Its not all about winning otherwise fans would not support those teams that have not enjoyed success for decades.

CON

  • CON

    I never forfeit. So... I like this portrait because it...

    Portraits art challenge.

    I never forfeit. So... I like this portrait because it captures a feminine glamor you do not see anymore in head-shots. Her skin is smooth & flawless and every feature on her face is in symmetrical proportion to every other, equivalent in dimension & geometric angle. The most striking feature (in my view) is her eyes: captivating, sensual, seductive yet coy with a slight semblance of dalliance. http://www.debate.org...

  • CON

    Martial Arts does not just help bullying by disciplining...

    Martial art instructors should not teach children a martial art

    YouTube Links All of Pro's links lead to YouTube's homepage. Thus, he has thus far got no evidence in video form for his points and event hen he'd have to prove that one instance of abuse occurring means that all martial arts are taught this same way.. The ‘Bully’ Case Pro states that Martial Arts instructors are deceptive bullies but if they were deceptive, surely they’d be successfully hiding the fact that they were bullies and he wouldn’t be raising the point. On top of this flaw, Pro suggests that because Martial Arts involves teaching combat and how to handle it that the student is being abused and ‘bullied’ by the instructor. Very few martial arts ever actually involve any real striking of the body in training as opposed to tournaments or practise fights. One example Kyokushin Karate [http://www.blackbeltmag.com...] whose philosophy is to make the boy so hard and powerful that self-defence becomes almost unnecessary and is very often only taught with full honesty and parental consent due to how rigorous it is on the body. There is absolutely no deception involved and anyone who undertakes it is fully entitled to ask what the training methods are. Other Martial Arts that involve contact-based training include Shaolin Kung Fu [https://thaingwizard.files.wordpress.com...], Jeet Kune Do [http://www.blackbeltmag.com...] and a few others. The vast majority of martial arts do not involve contact in the training itself but rather involve teaching one how to avoid contact and practising dodging or blocking techniques or at the very worst, grappling. As for the entire ‘bully’ concept of an instructor it is very important to note that both in real life and movies, the primary reason people begin martial arts are either because they themselves are bullies and are rather unruly and need a good outlet for their anger that is disciplined or they themselves are victims of bullying and want to learn ways to stick up to the bullies without outright killing them. Often weaker people feel the need to be more lethal with their moves such as neck-jabs or eye gouges and end up looking worse in the eyes of the law and teachers no matter how they justify it. Through martial arts training they can learn how to still be weaker but perhaps more agile and fast so that they dodge the bully’s moves and have him on the floor begging for mercy without really damaging his body in any way other than twisting a few limbs. Martial Arts does not just help bullying by disciplining bullies and giving victims a way to out-fight them non-lethally, it sometimes is literally a good way for people with a bully mentality or people with an inferiority complex to release those emotions and overcome them in a safe controlled environment [http://www.urbandojo.com...]. Imagine you are someone who had a rough upbringing or is simply sadistic by nature, there is no way for you to enjoy activities where you are not hurting other people and sports may seem too team-based for you while you like to hurt people and know it’s only you causing that pain. Psychopathic individuals or people on that spectrum would otherwise resort to bullying if they didn’t have an activity like a martial arts tournament to enjoy causing pain without losing control or being a danger to society. Additionally, this is further reason to encourage children to learn it more so than adults as a child’s self-control (for bullies) and self-esteem (for victims) are often very fragile in comparison with older individuals [http://web.stanford.edu...(2009,%200-3)%20Self-Control%20and%20the%20Developing%20Brain.pdf] Aside from those benefits, exercise itself is a great way of curing depression and other issues such as anxiety. A timid or depressed individual needs to begin to feel strong and/or powerful if they are ever to feel ‘whole’ again as a person. Martial arts offers them a cure to almost all victim-based psychological issues at once and is therefore one of the best all-in-one solutions to a victim’s mind-set [http://www.amadojo.net...]. A child is submissive to their parents and their teachers too, often referring to a teacher as ‘sir’ or ‘miss’ (short for mistress). Sir and mistress are common terms used for doms/dommes in the BDSM community [http://www.evilmonk.org...] yet children call their teachers and/or superiors in many walks of life these things every day. Ma’am could also be considered the equivalent of mistress in certain contexts. Submission isn’t a bad thing for children to experience, it is simply a good way for them to learn respect and to submit to the good role models while resisting submission to the bad ones which more often than not are their very own peers. Select examples of abuse do not disprove the overall benefits If I linked you to a series of select examples of domestic abuse either husband-wife based or parent-child, you would begin to think it was horrific that everyone wasn’t in foster care and that families even existed since the privacy of a home can allow all kinds of filthy things to go on. Then if I showed you examples of abuse in foster care you’d think the opposite. All systems are open to abuse and examples are there for almost anything. Workplace power can be abused, bosses molesting their secretaries is not unheard of either. Does this mean no-one should be a member of a family or workplace? No, it really does not. Martial Arts instructors are among the most disciplined individuals on Earth. Their abuser will most likely be purely disciplinary in nature and have at least a remote reason for it. Sexual abuse or physical abuse with no disciplinary motive behind it is next to 0% of abuse heard of in martial arts. On the other hand, this is not at all true for domestic abuse or workplace abuse. Teacher-student abuse doesn’t mean that children should stop going to school either. This ridiculous approach not only is fallacious but backfires as martial arts abuse is almost always with some reason and used purely for discipline while abuse in other examples of child-submission are often without any sensible disciplinary motive and are horrifically sexual or anger-prone in nature without any rational motive for the outbreak. The abuse reversal gambit So let’s say that we had an abusive parent and they fancied sending their child somewhere that the child would suffer even more. Due to the harsh reputation of martial arts, many parents of this kind may send their child there and laugh at the thought of their child suffering beneath a harsh master. If there was no reputation for abuse in martial arts, abusive parents wouldn’t send their kid there but since there is many do. And it’s the best abuse reversing mistake of all-time because guess what happens next time daddy comes to feel his little girl up or beat his son or wife? Bruce Lee combines with Jack the Ripper and that parent is on the floor before they can blink and their kid is making them beg for mercy but it won’t come this time. The abusive parent was defeated by sending their child to a place they thought would make them suffer but merely made them stronger and wiser.

  • CON

    In short conclusion, my valid justification. ... If your...

    A conclusion to the art of communication

    Ah. I see him now, more clearly. Standing quietly in the shade of his own tree. Humming contentedly. He won't bend to the will of your glorious mythical chant. Those seeds of deception were scattered about him. But were withered by the parched hum of reason. Are not the sociopath and his acolytes actually singing your sweet song? Try. To cut back the overgrowth of tradition. And rest for a while, in reflection of past innocence. And Infant purity. The dense seeding of that infant consciousness. The crashing cymbals of god and heaven. Deafened the subtle murmur of reason and judgement. Does that chorus of speculation, actually resound with words of wisdom? So. In short conclusion, my valid justification. May fall upon deaf ears and wither under your enduring canopy. But that monotone hum. Has sown a seed, and that ensuing discordance may cause dismay. If your sweet song and that contented hum will not join in harmony. Where lies the insanity? Let him hum his hum, sing your solo song once again and peace will be with you.

  • CON

    With such an abstract presentation, one has to attempt to...

    A conclusion to the art of communication

    What actually underlies Pro's argument? With such an abstract presentation, one has to attempt to decipher the encoded personal message and this will inevitably present as an ad hominem response in my own argument. Does not Pro's argument itself, also boil down to personal criticism. Or am I still confused? Or does Pro simply view this debate as a literary challenge. Is that their hidden agenda? Initially, with their brief references to scientists and atheism I assumed Pro was leading me off down that well trodden debate track. If this is, simply about Pro's personal grievance with "monotone abuse". I would consider that the assertions I made in Round 2 were an adequate opening counter to that simple proposition. How does Pro view the concepts of Individual ability, individual choice and individual freedom of expression? Let us try again, shall we?

  • CON

    Consequently I'm also unclear as to what I should be...

    A conclusion to the art of communication

    Hi. Emphasize. Emphasis. Empathy? Haven't debated on debate.org for a long time so I thought I would give it a whirl once again. I will be honest and say that I haven't really got a clue as to what you are driving at. Consequently I'm also unclear as to what I should be driving at . What are you for and what am I against? Nonetheless, looks like this might make for a fun, wordy debate. Hopefully I will be able to derive some clarity from your next submission. Peace be with you too.

  • CON

    What woe, that your siren song should fall upon such deaf...

    A conclusion to the art of communication

    He's there again, right in the middle. He's buried up to his waist and your throwing stones at him. Did his hum annoy that much? I've been hopping across rocks trying to come to terms with all this and now I've hopped right back to where I started from. I think that, it wasn't really the hum that annoyed so much. I think that, it was the tune he was humming. Tone and verbiage can easily be ignored. But that depressing hum was drilling deep into the core of that metamorphic seam of knowledge. The sublime melody and harmony of your tune, might just as easily elicit an adverse response. What woe, that your siren song should fall upon such deaf ears. Better to dwell in the bliss of your own elysian song and let him meditate in the satisfaction of his monotone hum. Just keep whistling your tune and let him hum his.