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  • PRO

    You can't say art isn't people, because that is also very...

    Hate speech against Modern Art should be considered Artist

    My opponent seems to be extremely confused on what freedom of expression means. Freedom of expression means everyone has a fair say. You can't say art isn't people, because that is also very artist but in a completely different way. You wouldn't kick a guy in a wheelchair and then claim freedom of movement, it just wouldn't be fair. For the same reasons, you can't use freedom of expression to justify cruelly imposing unrealistic standards of what doesn't look rubbish on Modern Art. Thank you

  • CON

    If there's anything you feel necessary to point out, feel...

    Sword Art Online is a Good show

    Alright so I'll be using Round 1 to explain the finer points in which we will be debating. Each round will consist of a different aspect in which the anime will be graded. As one would assume, for every round Pro shall be focused on explaining the Pros of each aspect, and vice versa. If there's anything you feel necessary to point out, feel free to do so. Otherwise, I will be jumping right in! Round 2 : Critiquing the overall story and plot - Here, both parties will be explaining why the show is good in terms of developement, plot transition, and possibly the likeliness of plot twists Round 3 : Character Developement - Express your opinion on the richness/diversity of characters, character developement, compatibility of traits, anything along those lines Round 4 : Art/Music - self explanatory Round 5 : Overall enjoyment - Was it appropriate in terms of providing entertainment? Does it fulfill the goal of attracting the intended audience members? Would you rewatch or recommend it to fellow acquaintances? (This category may be a little biased, but voters can interpret as so) Pretty simple concept. Pretty fun debate. And pretty much for pure amusement. I look forward to evaluating Pro's points, and thanks for accepting. Have fun.

  • CON

    If you are not good at playing an instrument at all, just...

    Art and Music Classes Should Be Banned In The United States Educational System

    I don't think art and music classes should be banned at all. School is a place to learn, it's not just a place to learn about math and science and all the boring subjects. Those who want to learn how to draw or learn how to play an instrument, it's the perfect class for them. It's also very hard to fail these classes, if you suck at drawing just ask the teacher for help, they're there for a reason, same with music classes. If you are not good at playing an instrument at all, just take art, if you can't draw but can sing a little or just play an instrument a little, then music class is for you. Plus who knows, at the end you may even like it, and would want to practise even more. Also there are many creative people, banning these classes will just crush their dreams, and if you're an artistic person, taking the classes will help you a lot for Art school and even for Universities and Colleges. I wouldn't say ban them, I would mostly say make them optional. Also I apologize if there are any grammar and spelling problems. I sort of rushed through this.

  • PRO

    If art & music are not important, are you claiming that...

    music and art education made compulsory for all school students

    You mention developing stress from doing activities we don't like, yet there are many students who aren't such big fans of courses like math, science, or english. If you'd enter a random classroom, chances are, they'd probably claim hate it. So, does that mean that they should not be compulsory? Second of all, music is shown to lower stress. Many turn to music for comfort, and for relaxation. And, sometimes, it just sort of inspires you. Music & arts are very important. If they weren't, would they play such an important role in our lives today ? If art & music are not important, are you claiming that people like painters, dancers, writers, actors, and musicians are not important as well? There are many people, who were involved in the arts, that contributed greatly to our society. Art isn't just painting. It's also writing, cooking,dancing ,acting and designing. It's everything from a novel, to the shows on tv, The world without art, would certainly be rather dull. I ask you, is that what you'd like our future to be ?

  • CON

    Thank you Ajabi for challenging me to this unique style...

    Art Critique Debate! (Not Drawing Competition)

    Thank you Ajabi for challenging me to this unique style of debate. http://www.debate.org... If the image does not display a link to it is available here: http://www.canvasreplicas.com... Title: Susanna and the Elders Artist: Artemisia Gentileschi Date: 1610 Medium: Oil on Canvas German Graf von Schonborn art collection Description: Susanna and the Elders is a portrait canvas with a young nude woman seated on large concrete steps. The steps are backed by a wall in which 2 older men are leaning over. The man to the left, with black hair, is whispering in the grey haired man on the right. The grey haired man is then hushing towards the young woman with forefinger to his lips. The young woman's reaction is averted face and open stretched hands, signaling rejection. Artemisia Gentileschi was a female renaissance artist. It is widely accepted that this painting was her first signed work. It shows such skill that it was originally attributed to her father, Orazio. She painted this scene around the age of 17. She was being tutored by a family friend and artist, Agostino Tassi. At first glance the seated nude is alluring to the eyes. Her reaction seems to be saying to the men a combination of rejection and disgust. Maybe the older men are flirting with the woman with crass comments. But as we look closer we see the one man whispering in the ear of the other. The black haired man has his hand on the oldest man's back. As if devising a plan and conveying it to an accomplice. There is something more devious at work here. The older grey haired man has finger to lips as if shushing the young maiden. As if the older man was saying "don't tell anyone". The young maiden's body is turned leg in mid action of out stretching to the next lower step, her head and eyes averted. She seems frozen in the act of running away. She wants to leave and leave now. But she is stuck. The body language of the characters is intentionally composed and arranged to let the viewer into the story. The piece elicits a range of emotions. Lust, concern, compassion, pity, with each minute more there is a call to action to free the beauty from her lecherous harassers. The scene depicts the Biblical story of Susanna or Shoshana in the Book of Daniel. Susanna is a Hebrew wife who is watched bathing alone in her garden by 2 older men. They attempt to blackmail her for sexual favors. The men threaten to testify to the authorities that they saw Susanna meeting a lover in her garden if she doesn't agree to their demands. She refuses and is in court about to be put to death for adultery. Daniel interrupts the proceedings and asks the men under which tree in the garden did she meet her lover. Their accounts did not agree and Susanna's testimony was upheld as the truth. Art is so often drawn from real life. This biblical scene painted by other male artist tend to show Susanna as a teasing youth. Was Artemisia painting from one of her own life experiences? The seated nude is a self portrait of her at 17. The grey haired man looks like Agostino Tassi, the family friend and instructor. Later Agostino Tassi was put on trial for raping the virgin Artemisia. Artemisia Gentileschi painted in the popular Baroque style of the time. Using the motion of the characters to portray drama. The simplicity of the piece suggests an artist just beginning to come into her own style. The composition and arrangement shows signs of influence from her father. Techniques for portraying depth are simple but well executed. The influence of Caravaggio through her father Orazio can be seen in the foreshortening , the theatrical exaggerated motions and poses. While her father's work remains romantic and theatrical in content, Artemisia's own work grows to be more raw. Showcasing strong women and their less than idealized actions. This is my first time doing an Art critique debate. So despite being half way in my character limit, I look forward to following the lead set by my gracious opponent. If need be I'll resort to a Feldman method of critique. I'm unsure if the bulk of the debate will be on interpretation or compositional analysis.

  • PRO

    I excel with vocabulary and written expression, but when...

    "Art projects" in English classrooms do not help students and weaken their writing skills.

    I will admit, before any further arguments, that I am inherently biased against artistic and creative projects because of my "non-verbal learning disability" or "hyperlexia". I excel with vocabulary and written expression, but when it comes to context and social interaction, I can struggle. Others, especially those with dyslexia or related learning disabilities, would likely do better with art projects than essays. The fact remains that the amount of writing required with an artistic project is much less than that of a traditional essay. With a diorama or storyboard, there might be about one page of written material provided by the student, usually backed up by the other materials. An essay would usually be five pages. It would be beneficial to encourage more writing at a high school level because in college, students will be expected to write 10+ pages, many more for a dissertation or in a major heavily focused on writing. There is a benefit to art and other creative exercises, but there are already required classes such as "Elements of I excel with vocabulary and written expression, but when it comes to context and social interaction, I can struggle. Others, especially those with dyslexia or related learning disabilities, would likely do better with art projects than essays. The fact remains that the amount of writing required with an artistic project is much less than that of a traditional essay. With a diorama or storyboard, there might be about one page of written material provided by the student, usually backed up by the other materials. An essay would usually be five pages. It would be beneficial to encourage more writing at a high school level because in college, students will be expected to write 10+ pages, many more for a dissertation or in a major heavily focused on writing. There is a benefit to art and other creative exercises, but there are already required classes such as "Elements of Art" that cover such areas.

  • PRO

    This is inflicting the public with the view that visual...

    Public funds showing bias towards certain art forms

    By making tax payer contributions fund galleries and museums in order to keep them open for free, Government is showing an inherent bias towards certain art forms and information. It does not fund theatres or music concerts, only galleries and museums. This is inflicting the public with the view that visual history and arts are more valuable than those that incorporate sound and other modes of expression. All art forms should be given the same amount of funding to prevent this bias. Therefore, aggressive fundraising for museums at their front entrance would alleviate this apparent bias and would lessen the amount of public funds used to keep these buildings open.

  • PRO

    Cutting these courses can result in less achievement or...

    Schools need music classes or other art classes and they should not be cut.

    Music stimulates parts of a child's mind that may not be normally be used. There have been many studies throughout the years that have connected the skill of learning an instrument to success in other classes like Language and Math. Cutting these courses can result in less achievement or success in students that don't have access to music education, or musical instruments. Music has structure and rules and so does our language. It could even be stretched to say music is a language. When a child learns how to read music it is like learning a new language and it has been proven in several cases that music can improve the way that students learn. Nursery rhymes, and songs have rhyme, they have patterns and by listening to a song a child might be unconsciously be picking up on these patterns and structures. 2. Without music programs children in districts that are low income may never be introduced to music, or art. If music and art was cut from a school in a very affluent community learning an instrument might still be accessible to those students because their parents could afford private lessons and they could also afford Cutting these courses can result in less achievement or success in students that don't have access to music education, or musical instruments. Music has structure and rules and so does our language. It could even be stretched to say music is a language. When a child learns how to read music it is like learning a new language and it has been proven in several cases that music can improve the way that students learn. Nursery rhymes, and songs have rhyme, they have patterns and by listening to a song a child might be unconsciously be picking up on these patterns and structures. 2. Without music programs children in districts that are low income may never be introduced to music, or art. If music and art was cut from a school in a very affluent community learning an instrument might still be accessible to those students because their parents could afford private lessons and they could also afford art supplies for their children to use at home, but in poorer communities children want to go to school, they might not experience certain things if they didn't go to school because their guardians might not be able to afford to take them places, or buy them crayons. School and especially these music and art classes are a students escape from academic pressures, from problems they may face at home and they just offer a fun yet educational break for students.

  • CON

    We need food to stay alive, but the reason we desire life...

    CMV: Art is practically useless, especially in the area of politics/making the world a better place.

    It is through art that we give our species worth. We need food to stay alive, but the reason we desire life is for self expression. The only constant in every society on earth is art. To create and appreciate art is apart of our evolution. Human intelligence stems from abstract thought, which is where our drive to create art comes from. To take away art would be to take away our abstract thought.