Music & art education should be compulsory, because they...
music and art education made compulsory for all school students
Music & art education should be compulsory, because they are equally as important as math & science.
music and art education made compulsory for all school students
Music & art education should be compulsory, because they are equally as important as math & science.
I agree that art and music should be essential to learn in school.
Well I will start out by attacking this case on two levels. I'm not sure exactly how you intended this so we will just have to see. Level 1 You state that, "I agree that art and music should be essential to learn in schools, public or private. It is a way to bring culture and education into children minds." Yet you offer me no one that you agree with. Were you simply intending to say that "Art and music should be essential to learn in schools"? Level 2 (Assuming you are trying to argue that they should be.) You say that it should be in schools because it brings culture and education into children minds. However what the community needs to keep in mind is the fact that many things do this all to different degrees. Music: Yes it brings some education. It also brings a lot of culture. Music goes back a very long way. Art: Maybe not as much education? Has quite a bit of culture. Foreign Languages: Lots of education, and a very great deal of foreign culture. Debate: Lots of education, a lot of culture (you need to know about every society to potentially debate well) Soccer: Not so much education, lots of culture though if you would like to get into it. Religion: Lots of education no matter what religion you choose, lots of culture obviously. World cultures: Same. Dance: Some education, lots of culture. Cheer leading: Nothing. Anyways my point is this. There are a great deal of activities that offer education and culture but clearly there is not enough time to do every single one of them in school. You say that it is essential yet I disagree and advocate instead for the freedom of choice. For some people art and music just isn't their thing, they need the opportunity to branch out. For some, having these classes mandated would simply be an aggravation every day. I would say instead that joining extracurricular activities should be strongly encouraged because of educational, cultural, and physical value. Thank you.
Art and Music programs should be mandatory for students in Grade School
You misunderstand my argument; I'm not saying there shouldn't be any music and art programs, I'm just saying students shouldn't be forced to take them. You stated that "If they don't like it then they don't have to continue the next Quarter." In Elementary School, they take music and art year round; they can't just try it, and if they dislike it drop it in a month or two. They're forced to take music and art lessons for the duration of the school year. And it's not typically just one school year; it's 1st- 5th grade. That's up to 5 years of doing something they dislike! In most of the Middle Schools I've visited, art and music is completely optional, and students only have to enroll in them if they chose to. But I've yet to find an Elementary school that doesn't make it mandatory for students to take these courses year-long. It's a waste of schools funding, to have to provide for so many unwilling students. It'd be much better for schools at an economic standpoint, to only provide musical education for the children who want it. Also, you say that "if they need money/a job they have a talent to fall back on." Have you ever heard of the term "starving artist"?Statistically speaking, becoming a musician or an artist is one of the lowest paying jobs in America, and you have to be extraordinarily gifted to make a decent living. Unfortunately, most people aren't extraordinarily gifted. You can't master an instrument at school anyhow, it takes hours upon hours of practice to get into a school of The Arts such as Julliard; spending a mere hour each day won't get you there. Many Julliard students practice over 5 hours each day.
Illegal art should be made accesible
Firstly I would like to thank the opposition for accepting this debate and I look forward to, and welcome their response. In retort to your question �€˜How are you going to make it accessible?�€™ I envision through both as you said, physical galleries and online museums. �€˜What sort of art do you think should be accessible, art like Bill Henson�€™s child photography/pornography?�€™ As for the question of sexual content, In Henson�€™s work, it has been argued that the human figure regardless of age, form, stance or intent has a sexual element to it as a representation of a sexual being. We humans are sexual beings and that is one the attributes of the human form. That does not make the portrayal human figure vulgar or pornographic regardless of age from an artistic point of view. It is implored that common sense be used in the Henson case. People would not take nude photographs or make nude images of the neighbor kid or family friend, with permission of the parents and expect we could publish those images. You know that if you live in the civilized world that if you did that the authorities would be knocking on the door, eventually. It is just plain common sense that should stop you, you should know better if you are a fifty something year old mature established artist. Not in the case of Bill Henson. I can say with certainty that the general public knows better and certainly anyone with pedophilic intention knows better. �€˜Doesn't it just spit in the face of the offline codes of legal and moral practice that protect artist's rights to show and profit from their own work?�€™ Yes it may well however it must be made clear that creativity and innovation always builds on the past. Walt Disney stole the original idea of Mickey Mouse from a writer and now stifles any attempt for this character to be represented without permission. The past always tries to control the creativity that builds upon it, Free societies enable the future by limiting this power of the past, Ours is less and less a free society. Never has creativity been more controlled. Take the addition, the changes, the copyrights turn, take the changes to copyrights scope, put it against the background of an extraordinarily concentrated structure of media, and you produce the fact that never in our history have fewer people controlled more of the evolution of our culture. Think of the consequences of this. Look at Google for example they have a monopoly over the online publishing industry and payed peanuts for it ($125M). What gives them the right to control culture? I think you are correct when you say �€œAllot of material could fall in the category of "banned" or "illegal"�€ï¿½. And this is the very point. A lot of work is being controlled thank you for making that clear. Culture production is being stifled through creative repression and copyright. In 1774, free culture was born in a case called Donaldson v. Beckett in the House of Lords in England; free culture was made because copyright was stopped. Don�€™t let 2009 be the end. Have a look at this video... http://www.youtube.com... References http://randomfoo.net... Open Letter from Ms Alison Croggon, Writer, Melbourne, Australia Ibid http://www.petitiononline.com...
NCLB tests what is testable; art and music is not testable.
While music, art, culture, and physical education are important, they are not testable. You can only create a standardized test around information that is common and fairly objective. No Child Left Behind does this, focusing on history, math, and reading comprehension. It cannot be blamed for not testing arts and music. These subjects are not testable. Schools should, however, teach them, and not merely focus on teaching to the NCLB test.
Football is an art not a science.
Goal Line Technology such as GoalRef is instantaneous. The project intended only for a signal to be immediately sent to the system it's hooked up to and into the referees watches. Upon receiving this signal (all this happening in a split second), the referee would know for sure the ball crossed the line. HawkEye also takes a literal split second, unlike your typical video review. While HawkEye requires a request to spit out its "Goal" or "No Goal" answer, it is still lightning fast. A coaches appeals system to the 4th official would work nicely here. Both of these methods are in the final levels of testing for use in professional play. I am a referee myself. I understand it's an art. This debate is over GOAL LINE technology though. Not "fix every call the players don't agree with" technology. *No* Article wrote:Do we want to stop the game for every debatable decision." *No* Article wrote:"Was it a handball, did the defender play the ball or take out the man, which way should the throw in be awarded, should it be a corner or a goal kick, was the forward marginally offside or not etc..." These are all subject to the interpretation of the official. Do we want to stop the game for every debatable decision? Of course not! Flow of the game. But is the ball going over the line a debatable decision? No. There is no gray area. It is either all the way over the line or it is not. There is LITERALLY a line. Calls on the field: Interpretation of the referee. Examples: "Was there intent?" "Will the player gain advantage?" "Was that shoulder to shoulder contact or did he push off with force with his hand to send the player down?" BUT, with all this in mind: Ball going over a line (ESPECIALLY a goal line) is this or that. It did go over or it didnt. White team did earn that goal, red keeper did fail to save that goal. OR. White team did not earn that game winner, good save by the red keeper. Goal line calls are this or that. Because the human eye is sometimes incapable of seeing it, this is one area where technology can improve our skills. Are we asking the technology to make the calls on the field for us? No. They are to the interpretation of the official, as always. But over the line or not? There is no interpretation. It is, or is not.
Mandatory art/music education in high-school is good!!
I thank my opponent for this debate. First, some definitions: High School: In the United States a high school is an upper secondary school which educates children from grade nine through grade twelve, in other words, from the age of 15 to 17 or 18. [1] Mandatory: Authoritatively ordered; obligatory; compulsory [2] Good: healthful; beneficial [3] In this debate Pro has to prove two things: 1) That Art\ Music education is beneficial, or "good", for a student. 2) That it should be mandatory for all students. Failure to prove both of these means the resolution has not been affirmed. Indeed, I shall now show why Art\ Music shouldn't be compulsory in high school. == As a Mandatory Subject == Students should be free while in school to choose subjects which they enjoy and should not be forced to take any subjects by force. If the students does not desire to be learning that subjects it ll hinder their overall education. As discussed here, "Many learning theorists believe learning is most profound, satisfying, and thorough when students engage in it for intrinsic reasons. " [4] It's logical that a student would be far more interested in learning a subject of their choice than one forced upon them. To do otherwise would be detrimental to their education, as well as beg a misuse of their time while in school. The aim of a schools are to teach students, as per the definition of school, "A school is an institution designed for the teaching of students (or "pupils") under the supervision of teachers." [5]. If schools do not teach a student as deficiently as possible than it is contradictory to the idea of a school. == Mandatory Education == Indeed, there is no reason why high school education should be compulsory at all. If a student opts to not do high school that is completley their choice. They will have to bear the consequences of not completing high school, which effects them and only them. There is no necessity to send some to learn with the threat of force, as this would mean student is in a school in which he does not want to learn, becoming a problem for their teacher and their fellow students. I await my opponents response. [1] = http://en.wikipedia.org... [2] = http://dictionary.reference.com... [3] = http://dictionary.reference.com... [4] = http://www.publicschoolrenewal.org... [5] = http://en.wikipedia.org...
Digital art is a lesser form of art then traditional art
I would like to forfeit this debate. It seems that my insomnia has caught up with me and I do not have the mental capacity nor the enrgy to carry on a serious debate at the moment. I apologize to my opponent and would like to re-debate him at a later point.
Digital art is a lesser form of art then traditional art
I look forward to this debate and very much enjoyed our last debate. Good luck! If it would be okay with my opponent I would like to further clarify on a point in the resolution. The word 'lesser' has not been defined and might be a source of confusion coming up in the debate. I felt this term needed to be defined as my opponent set aside the first round for definitions and so it would be a violation of the rule for my opponent to define this term any later in the debate. Therefore, I would like to define that term here. Lesser: Smaller in amount, value, or importance, especially in a comparison between two things[1] I sincerely hope that this definition is satisfactory to my opponent in that he specifically made it a rule that we can not argue over definitions.
Digital art is a lesser form of art then traditional art
Sadly, but for understandable reasons my opponent has to forfeit this debate. I ask that he not have conduct points deducted for this; and otherwise ask for the vote in this debate.