• CON

    Few artists ever see much profit from their work anyway,...

    The lack of control over, and profit from, art will serve as a serious disincentive to artistic output

    Few artists ever see much profit from their work anyway, many choosing the life of bohemian squalor in order to keep producing art rather than taking up more profitable pursuits. Vincent van Gogh sold almost nothing, but his drive to create never abated. No doubt the true artists will continue to feel the urge to create under this policy, and the loss of a few marginal cases must be weighed against the massive losses to art in general, such as the huge curtailment of exploration of and response to existing works, which are often artistically meritorious in their own right, and also the rendering unavailable of much of the artistic output of the world. 

  • CON

    Still other examples of individual artists making a...

    CMV: Art is practically useless, especially in the area of politics/making the world a better place.

    Art remains a vital means of protest and political representation, though some of it is not always executed well. Some examples that come to mind are Sheperd Fairey's [Hope](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FBARACK-PICTURE-inspiration-motivation- election%2Fdp%2FB00AF1TH9O&psig=AOvVaw3GYsFofIzUsMAECgeRUqnC&ust=1611776182855000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCJjB0aisuu4CFQAAAAAdAAAAABAF) Poster that became synonymous with the messaging of the Obama campaign. Still other examples of individual artists making a difference are the art protests that happened in response to BP's sponsorship of the Tate Gallery in Britain, leading Tate to [end it's relationship with the company](https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2016/mar/11/bp-to-end-tate-sponsorship-climate-protests). This protest was an example of counter propaganda, with BP donating to the gallery as a way of maintaining a sort of prestigious image. The protest worked by depicting uglier views of the company, which in turn stopped Tate from attempting to scrub its image. Another piece in the same vein is when the performance artists known as the Yes Men [masquerades as DOW executives and went on the news to apologize for the Bhopal disaster, causing their stock to plummet.](https://beautifultrouble.org/case/dow-chemical-apologizes-for-bhopal/) The piece had the effect of highlighting a tragedy that was attempting to be swept under the rug and punishing a company in one of the only ways it is really possible to, by futzing with its profits. There are of course other examples, but the broader point here is that art contains a lot of innovative ways for addressing the world. Beyond that, there is an argument to be made about the politics of the public good. An art education can help with media literacy, otherwise known as how to know when you're being told a story and figuring out what that story is about. The study and creation of propaganda can inform you to when you're being propagandized, and of course in modern society we are feeling the effects of propaganda all the time. To address something specifically in your post: >2. It will be turned into propaganda by those in power Seems clearly to be about political effect, perhaps I'm misinterpreting something.

  • CON

    Pro has to argue that visual art is a more popular form...

    which is more popular performing arts like plays, movies and music (con) or visual art (pro)

    Pro has to argue that visual art is a more popular form than performing arts.

  • PRO

    The brush strokes in the background, especially the color...

    Art Critique Debate! (Not Drawing Competition)

    I thank Faust for his swift post. My next post is one of my favorites, not only because its symbolism is transcendental, but also because critics have made clear how making it was as hard as making the Mona Lisa. It is a painting made by Edvard Munch, and while almost all of you know about his The Scream of Nature[1], the painting that I am presenting is titled: Puberty. Edvard Munch gave birth to expressionism, so really the above art of my opponent is only a copyof Munch's original style. At the same time as Sigmund Freud, the Norweign artist was also delving into human psyche. The Puberty is the best representation of the conclusions of Munch's experiments.[2] So what does this picture show in terms of ability of painting? Only an expert artist can appreciate the detail of the collar bone. This, being done without a model is truly something spectacular. The brush strokes in the background, especially the color strokes in the girl's bosom should be considered. They are not long easy strokes, rather extremely short strokes of the same color with different layers. As we move up from the bosom, the face feels a tinge of color so evident of Munch's work. Instead of making life easier by using abstraction as Dali did, Munch worked hard to create this effect. Another effect of beautiful strokes is the small, nearly invisible imprint of a lantern like structure behind the girl. To the left of it there is a shadow made, behind the color. To be able to contrast the smaller shadow, and those outlines together behind color would take immense patience and practice. Munch got neither.[3] Now for the interpretation of the painting. To be honest one could write a book, and still it would be lacking. The girl is displayed as having just realized her own adolescence, she is shown shyly covering her genitalia with a perplexed look on her face. In contrast both her nipples are being shown which means that she is yet unsure of her womanhood. The picture is the perfect description of despair. At once there is fair, and ambition; curiosity, and shame, yes even guilt. The large shadow behind her, you will note is connected in color to the shadow on her thigh, which her hands have cast to hide her genitalia. This shadow is infant her genitalia which looms over behind her, the more she hides it, the more she represses it the more it is growing as it is spreading. You will see a distinct yellow line in attempt to make a border, a wall over the shadow, but note how that line does not cover it. This painting shows the constant struggle of every person, whether adolescent or not. The war of those two gods: Eros (or Erotica) and Thanathos (or Death). So for the very stroke and the technique, for the embodiment of emotion, and for the utter brilliance of the painting I do not feel that this painting can be beat. Link to profile:http://www.debate.org... [1]http://en.wikipedia.org... [2]https://www.msu.edu... [3]Ibid

  • CON

    The lack of control over, and profit from, art will serve...

    all literature, art, photography, film and music should be released under Creative Commons licenses

    The lack of control over, and profit from, art will serve as a serious disincentive to artistic output

  • PRO

    There are exceptions to this however. ... I would like to...

    Sword Art Online is a Good show

    Okay let's try this again. I am sorry for the wait my arguments were deleted. As of no deep story, you are wrong. To save time I will only give one or two examples. Psychological/moral dilemmas. There are many dilemmas throughout the show of SAO. One of many examples is a not very well know character Rosalia. For those of you who don't know/remember her she is the leader of the orange guild Titan's Hand. She obvioulsy has several psychological dilemmas as she lures people in on purpose to kill them. Another example is a very well know character, Kayaba Akihiko, the creator of the death game Sword Art Online. One of his many moral dilemmas was wether or not he wants to end the game or keep it going. In ALO he also faced a moral decision, it was to either watch Kirito lie down defeated as Suguo, how do I put this, took advantage? Yeah as Sugou took advantage of Asuna. He didn't however and gave Kirito the power to defeat him by giving him his own login, Heathcliff, helping Kirito defeat Sugou. Romance Romance greatly advanced the plot of the story. An example is on Floor 74, the boss of this floor is The Gleam Eyes. If Kirito and Asuna weren't together at the time the boss more than likely wouldn't have been defeated. While in battle Kirito noticed everyone's* health dropping. So what did he do? He revealed a new sword technique, dual blades, and almost died by single-handedly defeating Gleam Eyes to protect the others. *Asuna, Klein, Klein's Guild. Deus ex machina As of no logical explanation to power-ups, they were explained pretty well actually. Kirito only had one secret ability that he kept hidden for a long time, dual blades. If you pay attention to the dialouge of the battle with Heathcliff, Kayaba, you would've noticed he explained that Dual Blades were rewarded to the person with the best reaction time. Now for my Arguments The developement of the characters was pretty good but not the best. One such example is Asuna. In the begging of the story she starts out as a person who was so afraid she didn't even leave her apartment for the first month. After that she became obbsesed with clearing the game, doing the best that she can to make up for all the lost time that she had/is going to have. After meeting Kirito she realized that she wasn't loosing life in the game, she was just living some where else. Kirito Kirito starts out as a person who wanted to clear the game as well. As the show/game time passes he starts to realize there's more to the game than beating it. He is/was a loner for most of the game but towards the end he starts to open up to people, one such person being Asuna. Diversity The diversity of characters was huge in SAO. There were "ladies men", loners, fun people, people set on clearing the game, people content with just living out there lives in the game, etc. Compatability As far as compatability, most of the characters are compatible with each other. Most like to have fun, want to clear the game, and upgrade whatever skill they feel like would be either fun/good to have. There are exceptions to this however. These exceptions are the orange guilds, such as Titan's Hand and Laughing Coffin. Groups like these find it entertaining to slay the players, killing them in real life. I would like to apologize again that it took so long.

  • PRO

    In addition, one must also consider the fact that...

    has computer typing taken away the art of writing

    This question is vague and must be defined to eliminate any obscurity. The "art of writing" refers to both the structure/content of the material being constructed and how that construction appears; ie. neat handwriting. With regard to the appearance and integrity of handwriting, standards have been decreasing steadily in most Western countries over the past 50 years. Of course, it is no surprise that these countries also have the highest rates of computer literacy and Internet access in the entire world. Computers in essence obliterate the need for neat handwriting, or even handwriting at all because they allow the utmost level of editing - including language translation, spell-checking and is legible by everyone capable human. Granted, one must also acknowledge that the way in which handwriting is taught has also changed with the steady uptake of different teaching methods in the 20th and 21st centuries. These new teaching methods have aimed at quickness and clarity over eye-candy. However they have achieved quite the opposite of that with often people having chicken scratch handwriting. In addition, one must also consider the fact that although these teaching methods changed, illegible handwriting has only be truly evident in the past 30 years - ironically the same time personal computers hit big. Hence forth one can logically deduce that bad handwriting has been exacerbated and compounded through the generations as a result of computers degrading the handwriting of the soon-to-be teachers and hence as the aphorism goes - bad habits never die. Therefore it is the amalgamation of both computers and different teaching methods that resulted in the death of neat handwriting; but in truth the usage of computers has corrupted the teaching methods via negatively influencing the teachers and hence computers are solely the issue with illegible handwriting. In terms of structure, yes one can argue that the usage of texting and Internet chat has negatively influenced the vocabulary and structure of people's written works - however, the majority of the work done on computers is properly structured (as is this response) and holds professional purpose.

  • CON

    Well, if you ever decide you wish to take this debate...

    Graffiti Art

    Well, if you ever decide you wish to take this debate back up again with a better grasp of your stance (I understand what you mean-- you know the difference, just not how to articulate it), I'd be more than happy to take it up. Until then, voters, vote for whoever made the better argument.